485: Dr. Kanwal Bawa on Overcoming Most cancers, Sexual Well being and Biohacking


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Howdy, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie, from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the tip. And this podcast is all about a tremendous story of overcoming most cancers and likewise about sexual well being and biohacking. I’m right here with Dr. Cabell Bawa, who’s a Board Licensed doctor and founding father of Bawa Medical and Chief Medical Officer on the New Wave. She is dedicated to her philosophy of rejuvenation from the within out. And on this episode, she shares her story of overcoming breast most cancers and likewise turning into a magnificence queen. And the explanation that she truly did that and the way she used that platform to point out her scars and to point out her hair loss and all of the issues that got here alongside together with her most cancers analysis and to convey consciousness. She additionally talks so much about some taboo matters. we speak about sexual well being fairly a bit and a few actually stunning statistics on well being and hormones associated to each women and men, and the way these change over time and with age, and likewise methods to assist enhance them. So, positively, a fact-packed episode, her story is de facto unimaginable. And with out additional ado, let’s be part of her.

Katie: Dr. Bawa, welcome, and thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks for having me.

Katie: I’m so excited to listen to extra about your story and your experience as a result of it looks as if you may have each private {and professional} expertise in a few areas which can be extraordinarily relevant to lots of people proper now. However to begin broad, I’ve learn that you’ve got a extremely, actually attention-grabbing and wonderful story about overcoming most cancers, which as we all know, statistically is on the rise proper now and, sadly, many individuals will obtain a analysis of sooner or later of their lives. After which not solely overcoming that, however turning that into one thing actually stunning and empowering and wonderful. So can we begin by studying a bit of extra about you and your story?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Thanks a lot for that. I used to be misdiagnosed with my breast most cancers for nearly three years. I initially found my lump once I was nonetheless in my late 30s and my gynecologist tried to blow me off and inform me that I actually didn’t meet conventional threat elements, that I used to be nonetheless not 40, insurance coverage wouldn’t cowl it. And I used to be a bit of perplexed as a result of I believed it was concerning the affected person, not the, you understand, the numbers. So it took a number of convincing. I did get a mammogram, however then they misinterpret it. They received an ultrasound, however they misinterpret that too. And this occurred for a number of years in a row. So lastly, I insisted that there was one thing very improper. They thought I used to be neurotic, and it was okay. I didn’t actually care at that time. I knew one thing was improper and I needed to be an advocate for myself.

So at that time, I ended up going to a unique hospital. I ended up going to the College of Miami Sylvester Most cancers Institute, and I can actually say that the docs there saved my life. So if we get nothing else from our time collectively, I would like ladies and even males to know that once they really feel that there’s one thing improper with them, that they have to insist and to not take it mendacity down, to not let anyone inform them that they’re being loopy, that they’re being hypochondriacs. When you understand you now. And nonetheless, you understand, this occurred to me and whereas this was not one thing that I anticipated, I had a selection. I may let most cancers defeat me or I may make it about one thing larger than myself. So, I, of all issues, determined to affix a magnificence pageant. Now you could marvel why at age 43, I felt the necessity to be part of a magnificence pageant. It’s as a result of I discovered as a most cancers affected person that my fellow most cancers sufferers had given up on themselves. They felt that most cancers was going to defeat them. And I actually imagine that should you assume it is going to defeat you, it completely will. You’re proper somehow.

So for me, I used to be by no means going to undergo most cancers. It needed to be about making one thing good come out of one thing horrible. And so, I made a decision to affix Miss Florida to encourage most cancers sufferers to reside their greatest life regardless of most cancers. To indicate them that pleasure mustn’t finish, and that they’re no much less stunning, even when they’ve scars, even when they lose their hair. So, I went on stage 4 weeks or so after my mastectomy. I had my scar seen, I refused to cowl it with make-up. It will have been simple to take action, but it surely was a matter of precept. I additionally went on stage with no extensions and no wig. I purchased a wig, I simply couldn’t convey myself to put on it as a result of I needed to talk my reality. And once I gained Miss Florida, it was a giant win, not only for me, however for most cancers sufferers and people present process adversity of any sort. So, in so some ways, you understand, my story has been discovered to be inspirational for that, and I’m very completely satisfied as a result of that’s what that is about.

Katie: That’s wonderful. And two issues actually stood out to me in that. The primary being the significance of advocating for ourselves relating to medical care. And I had the same expertise in a a lot much less ominous analysis, however I, for years, knew one thing was improper and would go to docs and ask for exams. And I suspected it was my thyroid. And equally was advised, “Nicely, you’re not in a high-risk group. All of these items are regular postpartum. Your ranges are wonderful.” They usually have been solely testing, in fact, sure ranges. And I needed to advocate for myself for a few years with a number of docs to lastly get a analysis that then helped me recuperate. And also you hear about this so much within the medical world. And sadly, it looks as if it typically occurs extra to ladies than males actually because I believe many research are performed on males as a result of they’re simpler to check.

However I believe…I’m so glad you introduced that up as a result of I believe the most effective outcomes, and also you would possibly agree from a physician’s perspective, occur when you may have a affected person who’s invested and well-informed and advocating for themselves, and likewise desirous to work with a practitioner as a accomplice in bettering their very own well being. And the opposite factor you mentioned that I believe is so essential on this and in actually, each space of life is that mindset piece. And the concept that should you assume one thing will defeat you, it is going to. And in addition if in case you have a optimistic mindset, that goes such a great distance towards the restoration. How essential do you assume that mindset piece was for you and for different folks in the identical scenario?

Dr. Bawa: I really like what you mentioned as a result of so many docs usually are not testing you totally, even when they do check you. And I’m so completely satisfied that you just have been an advocate for your self and also you discovered what was improper. And so far as mindset is worried, mindset in my case was all the pieces. And this will likely appear dramatic, however this can be a true incident. I had some problems throughout my most cancers therapy and I used to be in my chemotherapy suite. My blood ranges have been tanking for lack of a greater phrase to say it. And one in every of my nurses began to cry. She simply felt horrible for me that I used to be taking two steps ahead and 5 steps again it appeared each time we circled. And once I noticed tears in her eyes, I consoled her and I mentioned to her, “It’s okay. It really is. I will likely be wonderful. And never solely am I going to be wonderful, in only a few months, I’m going to be Miss Florida.” And he or she laughed as she cried. And that is an honest-to-goodness story. This actually occurred.

And I needed to clarify to her that I used to be not going there for a participation medal, I used to be in it to win it as a result of it was not value doing if it was not value doing totally and properly. So, I hope that my story has despatched a bigger message to folks on the whole about mindset, about perseverance. And I believe that if I didn’t have that mindset, if I didn’t have that perseverance, I don’t know that I might have made it so far as I did and had the end result I did as a result of a lot of most cancers is miserable. I’m not saying that there wasn’t any despair on my finish, there was. I selected to not dwell on it. So I believe that’s the primary factor.

Katie: And I additionally love that you just reframed that and didn’t disguise from the struggles or attempt to cowl the scars of that and let that truly be an outward, like, witness to your struggles in order that it may open a dialog about that. I believe typically in society, there are such…very outlined requirements of what female magnificence appears like and that strain to really feel good and to not have scars and to not have something that’s not thought-about, you understand, bodily good. And doubtless by doing that, you gave ladies freedom to be who they honestly are in so some ways, and to not have to keep up this phantasm of perfection. And from what I’ve learn, additionally that was a big a part of your motive for competing as properly is that you just have been capable of shine a highlight on different most cancers sufferers and on that as properly, proper? You used your platform to convey a number of consciousness there as properly.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. I spoke on stage about how I used to be misdiagnosed. I needed to lift consciousness for most cancers misdiagnosis, in addition to inform most cancers sufferers that life doesn’t finish with a most cancers analysis, that there’s a lot stuff to sit up for. Now, occurring stage and the costume I selected and with the hair and make-up I selected was a press release. I didn’t select a costume that coated my chest. I may have. There are various robes I may have worn which can be completely stunning that didn’t present my scars, that didn’t present my uneven breast measurement. However I went on stage as is. I used to be utterly uneven. Issues had not been finalized but with my second surgical procedure. I nonetheless haven’t had it, however I didn’t let that govern my selection of costume. This was about, once more, one thing larger than myself. So, I went there with my uneven cleavage, my scar seen, and brief hair with some areas that have been extra thinning than others. And this was essential to me as a result of I don’t need folks to assume that most cancers just isn’t stunning. Most cancers is simply as stunning as anything. And I believe that that was a vital message to ship to the world. And I believe it’s a message that resonated. My win redefined magnificence after most cancers.

Katie: And I can solely think about how at first overwhelming a most cancers analysis should really feel. And I hear from folks, sadly, like I mentioned, most cancers appears to be on the rise throughout the board, who obtain a analysis and, you understand, overwhelmed and marvel the place to even begin searching for sources. So I’m curious if there have been issues that have been useful to you in establishing that mindset piece while you have been going by way of that and/or that helped you understand issues to do to bodily assist your self by way of that course of and to verify your physique was nourished and capable of recuperate?

Dr. Bawa: You realize, it’s attention-grabbing how life labored out for me. I used to be probably not…as a part of my medical follow, I based and owned Bawa Medical in Boca Raton. It’s a wellness and rejuvenation-based follow. After I began this, once I conceived this follow, I used to be not considering of most cancers. I used to be not considering of what a most cancers affected person wants for assist but sarcastically, my life took that path. So, in my case, I used to be very fortunate. I didn’t need to go exterior to look for lots of the issues I wanted. I may do IV remedy in my very own workplace as a result of I discovered it useful. Additionally, chemotherapy is so nauseating, you’ll be able to’t eat properly, your dietary stage goes down at some extent while you want the next dietary stage to battle that illness, to battle that chemo as a result of chemo is doing fairly a quantity on you, it’s a poison, basically. You want it. I extremely advocate it. It saved my life, but it surely’s a poison. Let’s not neglect that. So, how do you counteract that? I had IV remedy.

The opposite factor that occurs with most cancers is hair loss. I’m a hair restoration specialist. So I used to be very fortunate in that sense that I used to be capable of do hair restoration inside my follow as a result of I really feel that most cancers hair loss is misunderstood. A lot of it’s about hair restoration the place in so many instances, it must be about hair loss prevention. No person thinks of it that method, even my very own associates mentioned I used to be being ridiculous that I ought to settle for it gracefully. They advised me I used to be being, you understand, very superficial. And I mentioned, “It’s not about being superficial. It’s about combating it when you’ll be able to battle it.” When I’ve instruments, why not use them? So I did a bunch of various issues in my follow and I by no means went bald regardless of very sturdy chemotherapy. The chemotherapy I underwent was a mix of Taxol and Adriamycin and Cytoxan. To anyone who does most cancers remedies or has gone by way of most cancers remedies, they understand how sturdy that chemotherapy routine is but I by no means got here near being bald. I misplaced the size, by no means the precise hair, you understand, on my head. So did that.

I additionally did pores and skin remedies at my very own follow as a result of chemotherapy causes a number of pores and skin injury and hyperpigmentation. So irrespective of how a lot sunscreen I used, I nonetheless had a number of pores and skin injury. So, a number of that I discovered I used to be uniquely positioned to assist myself. So this isn’t a plug for my follow in any method. You requested how I received by way of it, a lot of it’s due to what I do for a residing anyway. Now, how different folks would get by way of it, I extremely advocate that they attain out to their oncologist, ask for the sources close to them. Perhaps there’s a follow like me close to them. Perhaps there’s any individual who may help them save their hair. Perhaps there’s somebody who may help them with wellness and IVs and, you understand, serving to them with chemo-related pores and skin modifications and issues like that. As a result of, you understand, it’s very miserable while you look within the mirror and also you don’t appear like your self anymore. It’s not about being superficial, you virtually don’t acknowledge who you might be. And there’s one thing to be mentioned for making an attempt to keep up what you’ll be able to of your self by way of all of it.

I imply, there was some extent I had no eyebrows and no eyelashes. So I made a decision it was about mindset. I didn’t wish to settle for that. So, I truly went out and developed a product to develop lashes and brows that’s wholesome, that doesn’t change your eye coloration and do injury to the pores and skin round your eyes. As a result of a lot of what’s on the market also can do injury. Individuals don’t speak about it. Like Latisse, does it work? Completely. However it may well trigger some modifications within the coloration of your eye, for example. No person talks about that a part of it. So I made a decision that most cancers was going to be one thing that simply was optimistic in each method for me. So I even went and developed a pure product that I now have in my follow for that. So, a lot of that, you understand, I used to be so fortunate, however I do advocate that they attain out to social staff, they attain out to assist teams, and in my case, to associates. My household doesn’t reside right here. My household’s abroad. So my associates have been my tribe. They have been those who helped me by way of all of it. My buddy, Carmen, picked me up from chemo each single time. She simply took it upon herself. You realize, it takes a village. I used to be very fortunate to have a really supportive village.

Katie: That’s stunning. And I believe that additionally illustrates what appears to be a false dichotomy that generally occurs relating to most cancers therapy or any type of medical therapy. It looks as if typically there’s a pressure between the standard mannequin and the issues it’s essential do medically and the wellness facet. And it looks as if the most effective outcomes truly occur when somebody is ready to entry all of these issues, that it isn’t an both/or, however very a lot a each/and. And that you are able to do issues which can be supportive of your physique and likewise supportive of hopefully, the method of therapy and serving to your physique recuperate extra shortly. However that’s a extremely unimaginable story that hopefully offers hope to anybody else who would possibly, sadly, be in the identical scenario. And also you talked about your follow, I’d like to delve into a few totally different areas right here as a result of I do know you’re employed with folks in a wide range of other ways.

However one other space I hear so much from ladies about proper now and I’m wondering if COVID may be a contributing issue right here, however is sexual wellness. And it looks as if there is a rise in sexual-related issues or simply libido and sexual satisfaction, particularly in ladies. I don’t know if that is present or should you’ve perhaps seen this for a very long time. So I’m curious should you’re comfy sharing, should you had any of these struggles while you went by way of your chemo journey, but additionally the ways in which you assist handle that in your sufferers.

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Now, vaginal well being is one thing I’m very obsessed with. I do a number of intimate wellness for each women and men at my follow, and chemo and most cancers remedies, most cancers medicines, even after chemo may cause a number of modifications in a lady’s hormonal steadiness. It threw me into menopause. So, you understand, there’s so much that goes improper with most cancers and with ageing, on the whole. In my case, it was simply amplified due to the most cancers. However vaginal well being is one thing that may be very ignored. Ladies take higher care of their automobiles than they do their vaginas, sadly. And I’m right here once more as an advocate for good vaginal well being. And like I mentioned about hair loss relating to most cancers, why are we reacting? Why are we not stopping? I’m all about prevention as an alternative of therapy. So, I encourage ladies to return get vaginal rejuvenation at a youthful age. So a lot of my sufferers say, “Nicely, I’m not that dangerous but.” And I’m telling you, it makes my head spin as a result of I wish to clarify to ladies all over the world that they should deal with themselves sooner.

For those who handle the issue earlier, youthful, you may have higher outcomes long-term. Your vagina will age otherwise. It’s not simply your face that’s ageing, it’s your vagina as properly. So I’m very huge in my follow on FemiWave. It’s acoustic wave remedy, actually utilizing sound waves to convey higher blood circulate into your vaginal space, on the whole, not simply your clitoris, your labia, your pelvic flooring, all of it wants good blood circulate. So this breaks down blockages and blood vessels like plaques. You realize, it’s not simply your coronary heart and the arteries in your coronary heart which have blockages as you become older, blood vessels in every single place develop blockages. So that is to advertise good, wholesome blood circulate. And that makes your pelvic flooring stronger, which is one other factor that goes with age and childbirth and all the pieces else. I’m not saying that we’re curing incontinence, we’re definitely making a giant stride in direction of minimizing it with this.

So I like to recommend it to ladies of all ages. It additionally makes ladies extraordinarily orgasmic, which is only a fantastic plus level with it. So, we do O-Pictures at our follow, however we additionally do FemiWave due to the fantastic, fantastic results now we have with it. And there’s little doubt, and that’s the great thing about it. We do vaginal laser rejuvenation as properly at my follow with CO2. Now I’m not by any means saying something adverse about CO2, there’s a time and place for it. However I discover that FemiWave is one thing that helps ladies throughout the board. I actually have an issue making an attempt to even inform you as a lady it is not going to work. And you understand what? Usually the query is, “Who will it assist?” I believe the query with FemiWave is totally different, “Who will it not assist?” And I actually can’t consider anybody it wouldn’t assist in some form or type. In order that’s one thing that I’m very completely satisfied to be doing. And we at the moment are a middle of excellence with each FemiWave for ladies and GAINSWave for males. And I really feel that we’re doing a lot good to society, on the whole, by serving to folks this manner.

Katie: So that you talked about that like that ageing course of occurs there as properly, particularly simply as part of regular ageing. And I do know ladies report extra pelvic flooring points, particularly after childbirth, which makes full sense as a result of there’s some intense trauma that may occur throughout childbirth for lots of ladies. And I assume that this additionally impacts the sexual expertise fairly a bit and sexual well being that method. Are there different elements, like for example, you talked about that that type of pulled you into menopause? I do know menopause typically impacts sexual well being for ladies. Are these items that you just do in your workplace capable of assist type of handle the, like, sexual satisfaction facet of that even after menopause for ladies?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. What I do may be very complete. I really feel the totally different elements of what I do are very synergistic with one another. As an illustration, I don’t simply do hormone alternative, I prefer to name it hormone balancing as a result of there’s an imbalance in lots of elements of our life as we age, as we battle totally different ailments. In my case, it was most cancers, however in your case it’s thyroid illness. It’s no much less traumatic to your system. So I attempt to optimize well being. I attempt to optimize wellness, on the whole. So I prefer to take my sufferers and see them as the larger image, not only one a part of what I’m doing. So I might optimize your hormones. I might optimize your vitamin and your metabolic scenario with IV remedy. I might do, you understand, GAINSWave should you’re a person, I do FemiWave should you’re a lady. These are issues that assist everybody. I can not think about providing you with a subset that it might not assist. In some form or type, it is going to assist everybody. After which I fine-tune it additional. Does any individual want, you understand, for example, a vaginal laser? We are able to at all times do this. Do the boys want some type of treatment? We are able to do this. So I believe that this must be seen as an even bigger image and never bits and items.

Katie: I agree. It looks as if the most effective outcomes in any realm occur while you handle the physique as a complete and work and assist its pure processes versus countering them. In that realm, are there issues that you just discovered useful personally or that you just advocate to your sufferers that they’ll do at residence which can be supportive, whether or not it’s sure dietary practices? I do know prefer it looks as if sleep and hydration are throughout the board at all times good suggestions. I’m but to have anybody in 500 company on this podcast say sleep just isn’t essential and hydration doesn’t matter, however are there belongings you encourage your sufferers to do to assist enhance the results of those remedies and likewise that have been useful to you while you have been going by way of your journey?

Dr. Bawa: In fact, mindset was the primary factor for me. I felt that something I may do to calm my thoughts was useful. I believe meditation is underrated. I don’t assume that it’s important to sit for an hour and, you understand, stare on the house to meditate. I believe meditation might be various things to totally different folks. The concept is to calm your thoughts. If that’s by taking a stroll, if that’s by listening to a chunk of music you discover soothing. It doesn’t matter what it’s, I believe it’s essential calm your thoughts and discover steadiness inside your self above all. After which I believe that hydration is an excellent factor. As you talked about, hydration is a primary factor. In case you are not hydrated, then nothing works properly. Your pores and skin, your well being, on the whole, nothing works properly with out hydration. Nutritionally, I’m not telling you it’s important to eat natural, it’s not at all times possible, however no matter you’re consuming, I do advocate making an attempt your greatest to have a extra inclusive food plan, extra fruit and veggies, not taking any group out of your food plan.

As an illustration, chemo can result in a number of weight acquire. It’s a fallacy when folks assume that every one most cancers sufferers shed extra pounds. Some acquire. I did. So I believe the thought is to not say that, “Oh, let me do keto. I’ll shed extra pounds,” or let me do that or that, I’ll shed extra pounds. I believe a balanced, nutritious diet with smart parts is essential. It’s a boring factor to say, I do know. There’s nothing dramatic about what I’m saying, however that’s essential. Stability is essential in each side. After which, in fact, I believe when you’ll find a physician close to you who may help you with the issues that helped me. I used to be fortunate, I occurred to be doing this anyway. All I needed to do was come to work and, you understand, all of this was out there to me, however search out practitioners who imagine in a holistic lifestyle, who’ve of their follow one thing that may assist you. Now, sexually, for example, we’ve talked about FemiWave. In case you are someplace the place you don’t have a FemiWave supplier, we actually have a system. In the event that they contact us, we are able to at all times ship it to them. It’s an at-home intimate wellness system that makes use of the identical idea of sound wave expertise and makes use of sound waves to interrupt up blockages and produce good blood circulate into the vaginal space. It’s not as sturdy as what we do within the workplace, but it surely’s an exquisite adjunct for every other therapy or anything you’re doing in your life. For those who can’t get to us personally, at the very least use this at residence. It is extremely useful.

Katie: And I’m curious should you can converse to perhaps in simply generalities or perhaps particular instances with out utilizing figuring out particulars, however what sort of causes folks typically want these sorts of remedies? Like, I believe most individuals perhaps don’t understand that you just see these type of blockages in all tissue, not simply in your coronary heart, like folks perceive in that stage. However it might seem to be growing blood circulate could be a reasonably dramatic shift. What sort of outcomes do folks sometimes see?

Dr. Bawa: Oh my goodness, I’ve a YouTube channel, Bawa Medical, and one of many movies I posted nearly every week in the past is a couple of gentleman who is sort of 69. His girlfriend is 4 months older than him and so they’re having the most effective intercourse of their lives. They’ve each had remedies from us. The gents had GAINSWave and he says that, you understand, they’re having intercourse at the very least as soon as a day, if not twice a day. And generally they’ve nooners. That to me is inspirational for anyone half his age, not to mention any individual who’s virtually 70 years outdated. So are we seeing outcomes? We’re completely seeing outcomes. We’re altering lives. What we do is transformational. At my follow, I’m giving them a brand new lease on life. It doesn’t matter what age you might be. You probably have an issue, there’s no level in denying it, settle for it, discover assist, and reside your greatest life. Have you learnt that 20% of males of their 20s undergo from erectile dysfunction? No person thinks that the 20s may convey dysfunction, but it surely’s completely true. It’s a recognized truth throughout the scientific neighborhood that 20% of males of their 20s have it, 30% of their 30s, 40% of their 40s. It simply goes up about 10% per decade of life.

Now, such as you mentioned, we don’t at all times have these research in ladies. There’s a glass ceiling for ladies and never simply within the workforce, sadly. We are sometimes blown off, we’re referred to as histrionic, hysterical, you understand, hysteria, the idea of hysteria, you understand, while you look again at how the time period started, it’s very denigrating to ladies. So I’m not right here to say that…you understand, I’m not right here for a ladies’s lib dialogue, I’m simply right here to say that girls, we don’t at all times have the research for us, we don’t at all times have the statistics for us, however now now we have choices and we must always go make the most of them. Do that for yourselves. Get some assist. There’s assist on the market.

Katie: And I do know that it’s been a comparatively dramatic shift, these decline in hormone ranges and the rise in ED, even in younger males. And I do know we see low testosterone, even in younger males. I’ve even seen some statistics that males typically could have a 3rd of the testosterone their grandfathers did on the identical age. And to me, that speaks to the truth that we all know that we’ve had huge environmental modifications which can be resulting in a few of these issues. Our meals provide has modified. So now it turns into essential to be extra proactive. When now we have extra adverse inputs that now we have to take care of, now we have to grow to be extra proactive in counteracting these issues. And to circle again to what you mentioned too about food plan as properly, and consuming a balanced, nutritious diet and never coming from a spot of deprivation, I believe that’s one thing that uniquely impacts ladies extra as properly due to food plan tradition and due to a few of these issues we talked about early on.

And it looks as if many ladies battle with the mindset of with the ability to nourish their our bodies sufficient and with the ability to eat sufficient different meals to actually truly assist our physique. So I really like that you just introduced that up as a result of that’s one thing I’ve mentioned on right here earlier than is now we have to shift that mindset once more, with mindset being so essential away from like meals is dangerous. There’s guilt hooked up to meals. I have to food plan and be thinner, to I really like and settle for my physique, how can I nourish it to one of the best ways attainable? How do I assist it? How do I assist its pure processes of cleansing, of anti-aging? Our our bodies are so unimaginable in what they’ll do, they simply want a bit of bit extra assist in at this time’s world as a result of they’re going through greater than they’ve previously.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now, I hope I can contact on…you mentioned so many fantastic issues. I want I used to be writing as a result of… And I’m going to return as soon as we report this and truly speak about this by myself social media platforms as a result of what you mentioned is profound. Now you introduced up dropping testosterone ranges. Have you learnt that sleep deprivation in males is inflicting decrease fertility, decrease testosterone ranges? Once more, that’s one thing folks don’t speak about. It’s not an attractive subject, but it surely’s true. Sleep deprivation is inflicting that. Now you mentioned earlier about…you mentioned one thing easy, you mentioned, I do know that sleep and hydration are quite simple. Sure, they’re easy, however they’re so profound. For those who don’t get sufficient sleep, you may have decrease fertility. So when you may have decrease fertility, that impacts so many alternative elements of your life, and that’s only one instance of what sleep deprivation does.

So you then talked about, you understand, different modifications which can be occurring, different issues which can be occurring with tradition, the place we’re made to really feel lower than. Now, I used to be a measurement 0-2 once I was identified with most cancers, I’m in all probability a measurement 6 proper now. And I’m not being onerous on myself. I’m not depriving myself. Don’t get me improper, I’m not consuming all the bread basket. But when I desire a slice of bread, I’m consuming it. I’m not consuming a ton of alcohol, but when I’d like a glass of wine, I’m permitting myself a glass of wine often. I believe we have to be kinder to ourselves as ladies and as males. I believe society may be very robust on us. I believe there’s this entire idea of superficial magnificence. And that’s why I went to Miss Florida as a result of I used to be combating that idea of conventional magnificence. I went at my heaviest. I went once I was nonetheless swollen from my mastectomy. I used to be nonetheless, you understand, coping with fluid retention. I believe the idea of magnificence must be modified. Magnificence must be present in no matter stage you’re in. And it’s not about others making you are feeling stunning, that feeling wants to return from inside.

I perceive that society must be kinder to folks going by way of struggles. I get that. And that’s a given. However that power wants to return from inside us. Whenever you look in that mirror, it’s essential see somebody stunning, somebody sturdy, somebody who has persevered. We have now all gone by way of struggles in life. We’re all winners in our personal method. I’ll have gone to medical college. I’ll put on an extended white coat. My successes are totally different than your successes. We’re the one ones who know what a hero we’re and we have to really feel that. That’s what I wish to do, encourage folks to feeling and being their greatest. It wants to return from inside really.

Katie: Yeah, I agree. That was an essential mindset shift for me as a result of such as you, I struggled with the bodily modifications of thyroid illness and simply of getting six infants in 9 years. It was so much for my physique to course of. And the mindset piece, I’ve talked about this a bit of bit earlier than on this podcast, however issues didn’t actually begin shifting bodily till I addressed that mindset piece. And once I may take a look at the mirror and discover love and acceptance for myself, it grew to become a lot simpler to function from a spot of nourishing my physique as an alternative of combating it and loving it as an alternative of depriving it. And that made all the distinction. I believe you’re proper, that like that magnificence has to return and that appreciation and that love and acceptance and pleasure has to return from inside. And as ladies, that additionally offers us the flexibility to be that for different folks as properly. However it may well’t come from a spot of not having it for us to start with. And a few extra notes I had on my present notes I wanna make certain we contact on, I’ve learn and heard about ladies affected by one thing referred to as anorgasmia, which appears to be on the rise as properly. Are you able to clarify why that’s occurring? And whether it is on the rise, why you assume it may be on the rise proper now, after which how ladies can handle that?

Dr. Bawa: There are various the reason why ladies are having issues orgasming. For one, I don’t know that many people understand that solely 18% of ladies can orgasm from vaginal intercourse, from the penetration itself. So there are various things at play right here. One, we have to make our companions conscious that oral stimulation or exterior stimulation is extra essential. We have to have higher vaginal well being, on the whole. Like I mentioned, we have to convey higher blood circulate into the world to get up our nerves, to get up our blood vessels. I believe individuals who have anorgasmia or who’ve painful intercourse…these are two totally different points. Some individuals are having painful intercourse. Some individuals are not having painful intercourse, however they’re getting nowhere when they’re having intercourse. There are various components to this. So I believe wellness as a complete is gonna contribute to it after which training that there’s a downside. It’s okay to have that downside. And it’s okay to discuss that downside. Whenever you handle it along with your physician and also you inform your physician, “Pay attention, I’ve no sensation. I’m not getting there,” then I believe there are a number of essential components to this.

You want to converse to a therapist. There are therapists who specialise in sexual remedy and sexual wellness, and so they may help you with this. On the subject of the physique itself, there are docs like me who do FemiWave, who do hormone balancing, who will assist you with the O-Shot and make you extra orgasmic. So there are totally different instruments that it’s essential assist your self with. Once more, it’s not only one factor, I want there was only one factor, however there are a bunch of issues you are able to do to assist your self. They usually all contribute. I believe all of them work collectively higher synergistically and any one in every of them by themselves. So I believe there’s so much on the market. We simply have to get that assist.

Katie: And I believe having the dialog, I do know like all sexual well being subject is a bit of bit taboo and, like, I believe it raises eyebrows each time I speak about it on right here, however I believe the dialog can also be essential as a result of we all know that that’s tied into total well being. And to your level, I believe this can be a subject that’s not talked about sufficient, particularly for ladies. We definitely see all of the commercials for all of these points for males. And it looks as if when males have a battle with that, it turns into a vital, imminent factor to repair. However ladies, I really feel like typically are extra hesitant to speak about it or really feel like one thing’s improper with them and really feel disgrace round it. And to your level, I didn’t understand it was that drastic of a statistic, however for a lot of ladies, simply penetrative intercourse typically isn’t sufficient, however that’s one thing that they really feel dangerous speaking about or they really feel like they’re not regular due to that. And so I believe opening the dialog and letting them understand that there are alternatives and issues that may assist a lot, however even simply beginning that dialog and taking that disgrace and that societal notion away from it’s such an essential first step for ladies. And I’m so glad we’re in a time when there are issues like this out there and we’re beginning to lastly have this dialog.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now I get in hassle generally on my social media although. I’ve very dignified posts. I’m not exhibiting something that’s express. I imply, my posts usually are not pornographic, however even Instagram and Fb will generally take my posts off as a result of I discussed intercourse or one thing sexual. Now, I’m a medical physician, I’m not doing something inappropriate, however there’s disgrace even to that extent. Now let me inform you one thing completely unbelievable. I made a decision to take my kids on a trip and shut the workplace for every week and my assistant went on a trip together with her household. We imagine in having a life at Bawa Medical, we’re allowed to go on trip. We closed down our workplace and we received an answering service to reply our calls in order that sufferers may at the very least make and alter appointments whereas we have been gone for simply 5 enterprise days.

Have you learnt that I received a name as soon as I used to be already in one other city from my answering service and so they mentioned to me, “Sorry, Dr. Bawa, we all know we talked to you and we set this entire account up, however we can not reply your calls as a result of some folks name for vaginal rejuvenation, and that’s an inappropriate subject.” I mentioned, “Are you severe? Vaginal rejuvenation is inappropriate?” We’re not calling a porn channel, we’re not calling, you understand, “Hustler” or “Playboy.” These are, you understand, folks calling the physician’s workplace. Why is that this taboo? They usually mentioned, “Nicely, it’s embarrassing and it’s inappropriate.” I mentioned, “What about vaginal well being is inappropriate to you?” And these have been ladies telling me this. So, I used to be horrified, horrified that in at this time’s day and age, within the yr 2021, my answering service decides to not take my calls as a result of I provide vaginal rejuvenation and that’s offensive to them. So there must be a mindset shift right here.

Katie: I agree. That’s type of astounding that sufferers contact their precise physician a couple of medical downside…like, to me that may be the identical as like just like a pregnant girl making an attempt to name her OB and being advised, “Oh, I’m sorry, we are able to’t speak about that as a result of your vagina is concerned.” Like, that’s astounding to me.

Dr. Bawa: I simply…you understand, my head was spinning. I nonetheless bear in mind I used to be getting out of a cab in Philadelphia and I mentioned, “What a part of that is inappropriate? What a part of that is dangerous? Please clarify to me.” I actually requested the girl, I mentioned, “Ma’am with all due respect, do you may have a vagina? Do you ever discover that you just need assistance from a physician to your vagina? I don’t count on you to reply that query,” I mentioned to her, “however how will you deny ladies the chance to make appointments for his or her vaginal well being?” So, I’ll offer you a small instance of the answering service, but it surely signifies an even bigger challenge. It’s not okay to speak about it usually. Why? We’re all ladies and men, I imply, sexual well being is essential. We’re all in a scenario the place now we have the precise to have good, intimate wellness and to not be advised that it’s dangerous or soiled or upsetting to the common one who’s listening to us. Why is it upsetting to folks? What are we speaking about that’s inappropriate?

If it’s okay to speak about cardiac well being, why is it inappropriate to speak about sexual well being? Why is intercourse a unclean phrase? If it wasn’t for intercourse, you and I might not be alive at this time. It’s not essentially a nasty factor. And why ought to we be denied high quality of life? A very good intercourse life results in a greater relationship, results in a greater high quality of life. For those who don’t dribble urine while you train, you aren’t gonna have higher cardiac well being. I imply, it’s an even bigger challenge than simply about your vagina and your bladder.

That’s why I say that what we do at Bawa Medical is so transformational as a result of we rework lives. And that’s why I believe that this must cease being such a taboo subject, that Instagram must cease deleting my posts once I speak about it, that YouTube must cease sending me, you understand, little emails warning me concerning the content material I’m placing out. Why am I being referred to as an issue baby as a result of I’m specializing in an issue that we’re all going through? So, a lot of this, there must be a shift in how we take into consideration this. It must be okay to speak. And that’s why I’m so completely satisfied you’re speaking about it.

Katie: Nicely, and also you’re so proper. I believe that the dialog is so essential. And for ladies simply to listen to that simply because these issues are widespread, it doesn’t imply they need to be regular, or definitely that they need to expertise them. I’ve had six infants, 5 of them got here out vaginally and I don’t dribble urine once I train or soar on a trampoline or sneeze. That doesn’t need to be a factor. I believe many ladies assume that’s only a factor that occurs when you may have children, but it surely doesn’t need to be. I believe beginning the dialog is step one towards it.

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And in addition a theme from this entire interview has been the mindset piece. And I believe that’s additionally an space the place there’s a lot alternative for all of us, however particularly ladies relating to these matters actually to have the ability to develop and enhance as a result of there’s a lot tied up in that.

And I’ve a word in my present notes that should you have been going to provide a TED Discuss, it might be on why you shouldn’t let adversity beat you down and that mindset piece. And I really like that regardless of all of your experience within the medical world, that that’s the factor that brings…is a very powerful to you. So I’d love to listen to a bit of bit extra about that as a result of I believe you’re proper, mindset permeates by way of all the pieces and is so, so essential. So, I might simply love to listen to a bit of little bit of your perspective on that, having been by way of adversity and never letting it beat you down.

Dr. Bawa: You realize, all the pieces about who I’m at this time has been as a result of I made a decision to beat adversity. I used to be a sufferer of…and I don’t speak about this normally, and I’m going to attempt to not choke up about it as I speak about it, however abuse, abuses and…and right here I am going once more. Abuse is one thing that’s a giant deal. Abuse is one thing that goes throughout all academic, monetary limitations. I used to be a sufferer of a number of emotional, home abuse and finally bodily abuse as properly. And also you wouldn’t assume that a physician in my scenario would take care of that, however I did. I overcame that. I’m not in that scenario anymore, it lasted a few years. I gained’t go into a lot element about it, however the level is it was a couple of mindset. One thing needed to change and I made a change. Most cancers, one thing needed to change, it couldn’t simply be about illness. It couldn’t simply be about vomiting. It couldn’t simply be about shedding hair. I needed to make it one thing that helped me grow to be an even bigger particular person, a greater particular person. And I had to make use of my most cancers and my adversity to be a greater physician.

So, I’ve determined that it doesn’t matter what occurs to me in life, I’m going to make use of something adverse that occurs to me to assist me develop in no matter form or type that may be, to point out my sons, who’re my world, that life just isn’t concerning the negativity that occurs to us, it’s about what we select to do to rework it. And that’s why I believe that if I used to be to ever give a TED Discuss, I hope to sometime, you by no means know, it might be about beating adversity. Like, I discussed about Miss Florida, it was by no means a couple of pageant. It was a a lot larger factor than only a pageant. It was about redefining mindset of a most cancers affected person. It was about redefining the thought of magnificence in most cancers as a result of most cancers just isn’t speculated to be stunning, proper? That’s not how we’re raised to consider it. Most cancers is one thing that makes you lower than your self. You lose your hair, you lose your pores and skin, you acquire weight, you shed extra pounds, however both method, you’re not at your greatest. So we assume that meaning we’re not stunning. No, you might be simply as stunning if no more so as a result of now you may have overcome another factor. So, adversity is one thing that helps me reside a greater life. It doesn’t make sense, it’s virtually oxymoronic when you concentrate on adversity and higher life, however that’s how I select to see it. Adversity for me is a chance for additional development.

Katie: I totally agree having been by way of trauma in my previous as properly, I can now…I believe it takes some work and emotional shifts to get there, however I can now look again and have gratitude for all the teachings that got here from that and the issues that it allowed me to do and such as you, to assist different folks by way of that have and thru that story. Similar factor with my thyroid. I by no means would have cared a lot for well being had I not been given a motive. And I’m so grateful that that shift occurred. I believe you’re completely proper that that mindset piece is so essential and that it isn’t what occurs to us, it’s how we select to interpret that, reply to that, and develop from that or not as a result of we definitely at all times have that selection as properly. For me personally, one of many books that was useful in that was referred to as “The Untethered Soul,” and it helped me to course of a few of these feelings. And that’s one other query I like to ask at this level in interviews is that if there’s a e-book or a lot of books which have had a profound affect in your life or your journey, and in that case, what they’re and why?

Dr. Bawa: I believe a e-book that at all times comes up in my thoughts once I’m requested a query about books or a e-book that has modified me is a e-book referred to as “Outliers.” Outlier is a e-book written by Malcolm Gladwell about achievement and failure and what defines a winner, how the winners are normally outliers on the tip of that spectrum a technique or one other, and what number of occasions it’s important to do one thing to succeed, to grow to be good at it. And I believe that it’s a lot about perseverance and about rising above the common, above the norm that I believe is a e-book that actually helps me proceed my journey in direction of self-improvement, in direction of reaching excessive requirements. I’m a excessive achiever. It doesn’t matter what I do in life, I don’t settle for mediocrity. Mediocrity to me is a four-letter phrase. “It doesn’t matter what you do,” my father as soon as mentioned to me, once I was about 5 years outdated, “if you wish to be a chef, have Michelin stars after your title. If you wish to be a physician, be the easiest you might be.” So it’s not about what you do, it’s about excelling at it. You realize, if you wish to be any individual who does desserts for a residing, be Sylvia Weinstock. There’s greatness to be achieved in all the pieces. In order that’s, you understand, one thing that I believe “Outliers” helped me define in my very own life.

Katie: That’s stunning. I really like that. And I’ll, in fact, put hyperlinks to your follow and to some put up regarding among the matters we’ve talked about at this time for any of you guys listening, particularly in case you are within the Florida space and wish to discover Dr. Bawa and study. These hyperlinks will likely be there. However any parting recommendation for our listeners at this time, whether or not it’s on mindset or well being or any of the matters we’ve mentioned?

Dr. Bawa: I believe if I may truly give two items of recommendation should you’ll let me, I believe I’d prefer to say two issues. Firstly, ladies, please go get examined, do month-to-month exams. They’re not simply one thing in a textbook, they save lives. They saved mine. So be higher advocates for yourselves, that is essential. If there’s one thing improper, go discover assist. And in case your physician blows you off, blow the physician off, discover one other physician who will hearken to you. Secondly, I might say, I imagine in high quality of life, be it in your sexual well being, be it in what you see while you look within the mirror. For those who’re not completely satisfied along with your hair, do one thing to make your hair higher. There may be assist on the market. For those who’re not having the most effective intercourse of your life, do one thing to make your self have the most effective intercourse of your life. Whether or not it’s balancing your hormones, whether or not it’s doing one thing like FemiWave, whether or not it’s, you understand, doing one thing nutritionally. No matter it’s that you just’re not pleased with, don’t be complacent. So a lot of my sufferers say, “Nicely, I’m not that dangerous but.” That idea is unnecessary to me. Why would you wait until that time? Why would you wait until your life within the bed room is a whole catastrophe earlier than you make it higher?

Why not go do one thing like FemiWave, for example, the place it’s received no downtime, it’s not painful? Do one thing for your self. For those who’re having points along with your hormones and also you’re having sizzling flashes, converse to your physician about optimizing your hormones. Do this. So, I believe, reside your greatest life, no matter meaning to you. In no matter form or type you’ll be able to elevate your existence, do it.

Katie: I really like that. And I believe that sums up a number of what we talked about at this time and is an ideal place to wrap up. However I’m very grateful to your time at this time. I’m very grateful that you’ve got recovered, and also you’re thriving, and that you just’re serving to many different folks do the identical. Thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks a lot for having me. This was fantastic.

Katie: And thanks as at all times to you, guys, for listening, for sharing your most precious belongings, your time and vitality, and a focus with us at this time. We’re each so grateful that you just did, and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the following episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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